Monday, August 17, 2020

My kind of weather

"Death Valley hits 130 degrees, thought to be highest temperature on Earth in nearly a century"

Death Valley is pretty much the only place in California I want to visit. Definitely on my bucket list.


23 comments:

Veeshir said...

Meh, we call that Tuesday in the Valley of the Sun.


I have a question, has anybody heard of this?
https://state.usconcealedonline.com/arizona/?c=13332&s1=g0817&clck=220707042

ck said...

It got named Death Valley when half of the wagon train my great-great-great grandfather (Jefferson Hunt) was leading decided to take a shortcut, He refused and led the smart half of the wagon train to safety. He was also the first one to reach to the Donner Party from the west.

RebeccaH said...

We crossed Death Valley back in the 70s when we were moving back to Ohio from California, in preparation for deployment to West Germany. Our conclusion: never again.

rinardman said...

Drove through it once, headed to Bishop,CA back in the early 80's. Must have been early September, and I think the temp in Death Valley Junction that day was around 100, so not too bad. Still, hot enough that the trip the rest of the way across Rt.190 to the west was spooky, what with the scanty traffic, and the past history of the unfortunate travelers thereabouts.

ck said...

It's spectacular in the winter. We camped there a few times when I was a kid.

Paco said...

V: I'm not really sure what that site is trying to accomplish, especially with respect to Arizona. Don't y'all have "constitutional carry" out there? Although maybe residents of Arizona need some kind of permit for out of state. In any event, I'm not familiar with the site.

Veeshir said...

Thanks.
Yeah, AZ has constitutional carry, but I'd like a permit when I leave the state.

I've been carrying a lot more since our fine lefty betters got so mostly-peaceful, I almost never did before.

JeffS said...

Thank you, no, I will pass on a trip to Death Valley.

I experienced a high temperature in Kuwait of 144 F, out in the desert, at a charming place known as Ali Al Salem Air Base. And I was living and (mostly) working in air conditioned buildings -- pity the troops who had to work outside!

That's enough for me. Especially my part of the Pacific Northwest routinely sees 95 to 105 F temperatures in July and August. One year, we had the "distinction" of being the hottest place in the United States at 116 F.

God BLESS air conditioning. Warmies and swampies can take a flying leap at a rolling donut.

A fun fact about Kuwait contingency quarters -- you never used the hot water tap in the summer. You couldn't -- the "cold" water was stored in a water tower that became a nifty water heater in the summer, in spite of the light colored paint and insulation. In fact, most showers were taken in the morning, using only the cold water tap. Caution was needed to avoid being scalded.

(At that, I was lucky in that I had a semi-private room, and a short indoor walk to a common latrine. Troop billets had no internal plumbing, and all personal hygiene took place in trailers outfitted as latrines.)

Private quarters on base (and across the highway in Kuwait City) were somewhat better -- they had their own water tower on the building, and an internal water heater. So, in the summer, the outside tank provided the hot water, and the water heater (turned off) was the source of "cold" water. Come "winter", and their roles were reversed.

Paco said...

Veeshir: a Utah concealed-carry permit is considered to be the best by many people because there is substantial state reciprocity (I believe 30 or more states recognize it), and there is no residency requirement to get it. When I was going for my first CC permit in Northern Virginia, taking a class at NRA HQ, there were instructors there who had been trained to teach classes for the Utah permit. I never got it myself, but I'm sure there must be instructors in Arizona who have the credentials to teach a class that would meet the requirements of the state of Utah.

I believe, in states that do issue permits, you first have to get your relevant state permit before you get a Utah permit (at least, that's the way it used to work in Virginia). Since Arizona doesn't require a permit, per se, I'm not sure how that would work (maybe the process is easier in states with constitutional carry).

JeffS said...

Paco, I have a Utah CCL as well. Utah does not require you to show any local CCL, only that you took their training from an authorized source.

States that require a concealed carry generally won't accept a Utah permit for permanent residents. Visitors can flash a Utah card.

But not all states accept the Utah permit, as you noted. That's why I have three (3) CCLs -- Washington, Oregon, and Utah.

JeffS said...

Veeshir, you are better off checking on the state requirements for a CCL. Your link looks like a scam.

I suggest looking at https://www.concealedcarrystates.org -- it explains reciprocity, which is a real issue these days.

Identify the states that you are going to travel through and/or visit, and see what each state requires. Which can change suddenly (as happened after the commies took over Virginia). There is no such thing as a national right to carry. Unfortunately.

And, bear in mind that federal lands may or may not have the same laws as state lands. That includes tribal reservations. As a rule, national parks and forests are required to follow the laws of adjacent states, but that doesn't mean they don't have additional rules.

Yeah, this sucks. But as I used to tell my first responders, "In order to break the rules, you have to know the rules."

Paco said...

Thanks, Jeff, for adding those details.

bruce said...

Your great-great-great grandfather ck?

Wow, we only see stuff like that in movies. My gt gt grandfather was a master mariner, sea captain and son of one. Before the Australia run opened up, the elder began their captain career on the Africa to Carribean run. You can guess the cargo, we don't talk about it.

Veeshir said...

The link came from an email from Armslist, who I generally trust, but it does look like a scam.
Thanks for all the info!

ck said...

Yeah bruce, I think he was the only one at Sutters Mill that didn't strike it rich in the goldrush.

Paco said...

Yes, ck, that is some great family history. Your great-great-great grandfather didn't stake out a borax claim, did he?

ck said...

My sis-in-law graduated from Jefferson Hunt high school in San Bernardino(he founded San Bernardino too) and had no idea who he was. Then she met my brother.

Paco said...

Well, that story would be quite the ice breaker!

ck said...

No borax, I don't think, but with all the wagon trains he led I'm sure he had a team of 20 oxen at one time or another.

JeffS said...

Veeshir -- Horse, mouth, some assembly required. Membership in the Church of Latter Day Saints not required.

ck said...

I have a Utah CCW, get started now, it took 7 or 8 weeks to come back after sending the paperwork in.

Veeshir said...

Thanks!
That was my plan but that link looked interesting.

kc said...

As of Tuesday, I'll have Florida ccw...which, according to paper Husband got last week, has reciprocity with 36 states. I'll learn much more about it Tuesday.