"There are countless horrible things happening all over the world and horrible people prospering, but we must never allow them to disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to sabotage and annoy them whenever possible." -Auberon Waugh
Sunday, July 2, 2023
In case you feel like you're not quite getting the complete story on the events in France from the official news sources
I saw one video clip reportedly showing a police van being looted of weapons ... ... with no police in sight. Hmmmmmm!
And another clip showing a "yute" lugging a light machine gun down what supposed to be a street in France. I didn't see any ammo. But yet another clip had people firing weapons into the air -- I don't think that was faked.
And yet Macron won't declare an emergency. Hmmmmm!
What's happening is they imported people from craphole countries, did not allow them to assimilate and now there's a critical mass of them that want France to resemble their north African nations. . The gov'ts in those nations are the ones with the biggest armed following. Since France has all that gun control and a small military, the north Africans are the biggest armed force. I wonder how brutal the response is going to be and if we'll be able to figure it out with all the lies we'll be hearing.
Unions representing French police have issued a very interesting leter. "Amid the ongoing violence in France, the Unions which represents half of the French police announced on the 30th of June, that they are engaged in a ‘war against vermins.’" https://www.opindia.com/2023/07/french-police-unions-official-statement-violent-protests-war-vermin/
What was one of France's weaknesses regarding immigration may now be the thing that saves them: migrants are considered second-class citizens so it might be easier to deport them ... if only France has the will, and not too many dotty old ladies kneeling in the street pleading for the police to be merciful.
I was reading somewhere that "militias" were taking to the streets in some cities to combat the rioters. Glad to see that there are still some citizens who want to preserve what's left of traditional France.
Btw, I saw that video of the sappy old lady on her knees, praying for the police not to hurt anybody. Made me want to gag. Although, as I recall, the police just marched around her, paying her no mind.
I wonder if the troublemakers can be deported in any significant numbers. Many, if not most, of them are second or third generation Algerians. Are they citizens? I would think so, but am not sure. France seems to have made the mistake, having let its overseas empire slip away, of creating an empire within its own borders, letting people pour in from former colonies (notably Algeria, but also Senegal, Morocco and other places). I have no idea what the French thought they were going to accomplish; did they truly believe that foreigners were so enamored of the gloire of France that they would all become dutiful and devoted little Frenchmen?
I can't watch Watson as I feel I'm being sprayed with spit. Dealt with enough mouthy poms in my life and don't need to add to the experience, so I don't know what he claims, but I doubt it's accurate anyway.
We seem to be stuck in a loop of presentism. But those of us in the former colonial empires should at least see the problems with projecting current ideas back to supposed 'causes'.
For example, Australian citizenship did not exist before 1949: 'Until 1949 there was no such thing as an Australian citizen. Before that, anyone born or naturalised (made a citizen) in Australia was a British subject. People travelling overseas were issued with British passports.' https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/citizenship-act
That's why we used a bizarre 'spelling test' to maintain White Australia - legally anyone with a British passport, from India or anywhere else, was free to travel anywhere within the British Empire, and this had always been the case.
Something similar but with a global 'French Republic' instead of an empire seems to have been the case with 'La France' at least since the time of Napoleon. French citizenship seems to have been modelled on ancient Roman citizenship.
The question then becomes, Why didn't this happen before? Why did problems start to emerge around the 1960s? Television? Mass media?
(Australia got away with a whites only policy until the 1960s when I think US Civil Rights struggles reported on TV made it too embarrassing).
A complicating factor: 'metropolitan' French citizens were (are?) subject to mandatory conscription, so it seems there were groups of people taking residence in France proper who did not want to become citizens for that reason.
I met a French guy in Australia in the 1980s who said he can never return to France because he ignored the call-up when he turned the legal age.
And it all seems much more complex than our British example when I look into it: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/w/wsfh/0642292.0034.011/--citizenship-the-limits-of-french-identity-and-pensions-for?rgn=main;view=fulltext
So much for the ideals of the Revolution! But it seems George Washington was awarded honorary French citizenship for his contribution to Liberty - Happy Fourth of July!
I saw one video clip reportedly showing a police van being looted of weapons ... ... with no police in sight. Hmmmmmm!
ReplyDeleteAnd another clip showing a "yute" lugging a light machine gun down what supposed to be a street in France. I didn't see any ammo. But yet another clip had people firing weapons into the air -- I don't think that was faked.
And yet Macron won't declare an emergency. Hmmmmm!
What's happening is they imported people from craphole countries, did not allow them to assimilate and now there's a critical mass of them that want France to resemble their north African nations. .
ReplyDeleteThe gov'ts in those nations are the ones with the biggest armed following.
Since France has all that gun control and a small military, the north Africans are the biggest armed force.
I wonder how brutal the response is going to be and if we'll be able to figure it out with all the lies we'll be hearing.
Unions representing French police have issued a very interesting leter.
ReplyDelete"Amid the ongoing violence in France, the Unions which represents half of the French police announced on the 30th of June, that they are engaged in a ‘war against vermins.’"
https://www.opindia.com/2023/07/french-police-unions-official-statement-violent-protests-war-vermin/
My message to the people running France: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
ReplyDeletefirey, but mostly peaceful...
ReplyDeleteWhat was one of France's weaknesses regarding immigration may now be the thing that saves them: migrants are considered second-class citizens so it might be easier to deport them ... if only France has the will, and not too many dotty old ladies kneeling in the street pleading for the police to be merciful.
ReplyDeleteI was reading somewhere that "militias" were taking to the streets in some cities to combat the rioters. Glad to see that there are still some citizens who want to preserve what's left of traditional France.
ReplyDeleteBtw, I saw that video of the sappy old lady on her knees, praying for the police not to hurt anybody. Made me want to gag. Although, as I recall, the police just marched around her, paying her no mind.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the troublemakers can be deported in any significant numbers. Many, if not most, of them are second or third generation Algerians. Are they citizens? I would think so, but am not sure. France seems to have made the mistake, having let its overseas empire slip away, of creating an empire within its own borders, letting people pour in from former colonies (notably Algeria, but also Senegal, Morocco and other places). I have no idea what the French thought they were going to accomplish; did they truly believe that foreigners were so enamored of the gloire of France that they would all become dutiful and devoted little Frenchmen?
I can't watch Watson as I feel I'm being sprayed with spit. Dealt with enough mouthy poms in my life and don't need to add to the experience, so I don't know what he claims, but I doubt it's accurate anyway.
ReplyDeleteWe seem to be stuck in a loop of presentism. But those of us in the former colonial empires should at least see the problems with projecting current ideas back to supposed 'causes'.
For example, Australian citizenship did not exist before 1949:
'Until 1949 there was no such thing as an Australian citizen. Before that, anyone born or naturalised (made a citizen) in Australia was a British subject. People travelling overseas were issued with British passports.'
https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/citizenship-act
That's why we used a bizarre 'spelling test' to maintain White Australia - legally anyone with a British passport, from India or anywhere else, was free to travel anywhere within the British Empire, and this had always been the case.
Something similar but with a global 'French Republic' instead of an empire seems to have been the case with 'La France' at least since the time of Napoleon. French citizenship seems to have been modelled on ancient Roman citizenship.
The question then becomes, Why didn't this happen before? Why did problems start to emerge around the 1960s? Television? Mass media?
(Australia got away with a whites only policy until the 1960s when I think US Civil Rights struggles reported on TV made it too embarrassing).
A complicating factor: 'metropolitan' French citizens were (are?) subject to mandatory conscription, so it seems there were groups of people taking residence in France proper who did not want to become citizens for that reason.
ReplyDeleteI met a French guy in Australia in the 1980s who said he can never return to France because he ignored the call-up when he turned the legal age.
And it all seems much more complex than our British example when I look into it:
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/w/wsfh/0642292.0034.011/--citizenship-the-limits-of-french-identity-and-pensions-for?rgn=main;view=fulltext
So much for the ideals of the Revolution! But it seems George Washington was awarded honorary French citizenship for his contribution to Liberty - Happy Fourth of July!