"There are countless horrible things happening all over the world and horrible people prospering, but we must never allow them to disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to sabotage and annoy them whenever possible." -Auberon Waugh
Saturday, January 10, 2009
Why You Should Bookmark Paco Enterprises
Because, if you have to Google it every time you want to visit, you will destroy the world (H/T: Babalu).
From the {ahem} article - "Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres."
Don't know why Google should be so secretive about that information or their location. I mean, really, you'd think someone who thought they were evil might burn 'em to the ground, or release all the squirrels or something.
Google is probably practicing operational security, KC. Those sort of data can be of use to competitors, in a number of ways (e.g., power consumption can help estimate the number of servers). Although I expect that the competitors already know much of said data; industrial espionage is more prevalent than many people realize, not to mention available from other sources. For example, they'll likely locate their data centers where power is cheap.
That said, Google is certainly not a green operation, and won't be until we develop computers that don't generate so much heat, which means a breakthrough in technology of some sort (e.g., viable room temperature superconductors). A point that I am certain the Google leadership is well aware, so I've long been skeptical of their "Gaia friendly" operations.
Richard, greenies are so far down the path of insanity that no treatment is possible. In the not-so-distant future, I expect to see Thought Police stationed on street corners.
Whereupon I will be arrested for thinking how stupid that is.
Some of the newer procs have significant power savings, and then there's the solid-state disks out on the horizon, pending access speed increases. Those are pretty much the big heat sources. Not to mention the last moving parts.
Don't forget the power supplies, unless they are using 12 volt DC power supplies. That's another source.
Not to mention the fact that Google data centers have thousands of servers. Even with a small heat output, that can add up to a lot of heat in one building.
But, yes, overall, a lot less than we see now. Unless Google decides that they can quadruple the number they have now, thanks to increased efficiency and lower costs.
RebeccaH. Don't lose sleep over your gaseous excesses killing our Australian sharks. We've had more shark attacks in the past few months than for quite a few years. Just two yesterday. So google away, conscience free but do consider the impact on the sea kittens. Mehaul
Don't forget the power supplies, unless they are using 12 volt DC power supplies. That's another source.
Yes, but the +-12 is used for the disks and the fans. If the disks go +5 as solid state, so do the fans, and the +-12 supply goes bye-bye along with a hefty portion of the current drain. And heat.
I work in a data center, dude. Fairly large one. We heat the building in the winter.
Are they stucking foned?
ReplyDeleteTW: sesserom: How Aladdin stores his OS on his motherboard...
Oh, totally, dude. No other explanation.
ReplyDeleteFrom the {ahem} article - "Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres."
ReplyDeleteDon't know why Google should be so secretive about that information or their location. I mean, really, you'd think someone who thought they were evil might burn 'em to the ground, or release all the squirrels or something.
Google is probably practicing operational security, KC. Those sort of data can be of use to competitors, in a number of ways (e.g., power consumption can help estimate the number of servers). Although I expect that the competitors already know much of said data; industrial espionage is more prevalent than many people realize, not to mention available from other sources. For example, they'll likely locate their data centers where power is cheap.
ReplyDeleteThat said, Google is certainly not a green operation, and won't be until we develop computers that don't generate so much heat, which means a breakthrough in technology of some sort (e.g., viable room temperature superconductors). A point that I am certain the Google leadership is well aware, so I've long been skeptical of their "Gaia friendly" operations.
Richard, greenies are so far down the path of insanity that no treatment is possible. In the not-so-distant future, I expect to see Thought Police stationed on street corners.
ReplyDeleteWhereupon I will be arrested for thinking how stupid that is.
Jiminy! I wonder how many species I've killed with my Google searches.
ReplyDeleteSome of the newer procs have significant power savings, and then there's the solid-state disks out on the horizon, pending access speed increases. Those are pretty much the big heat sources. Not to mention the last moving parts.
ReplyDeleteThose are pretty much the big heat sources.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget the power supplies, unless they are using 12 volt DC power supplies. That's another source.
Not to mention the fact that Google data centers have thousands of servers. Even with a small heat output, that can add up to a lot of heat in one building.
But, yes, overall, a lot less than we see now. Unless Google decides that they can quadruple the number they have now, thanks to increased efficiency and lower costs.
TW: mated. On a discussion about Google? Ewwww!
I shall immediately bookmark Paco Enterprises, sir!
ReplyDeleteI would not want my whale-oil powered steam babbage machine to waste natural resources if that could be avoided.
CO2, SHMEEO2.
ReplyDeleteThe plants love it.
RebeccaH. Don't lose sleep over your gaseous excesses killing our Australian sharks. We've had more shark attacks in the past few months than for quite a few years. Just two yesterday. So google away, conscience free but do consider the impact on the sea kittens. Mehaul
ReplyDeleteDon't forget the power supplies, unless they are using 12 volt DC power supplies. That's another source.
ReplyDeleteYes, but the +-12 is used for the disks and the fans. If the disks go +5 as solid state, so do the fans, and the +-12 supply goes bye-bye along with a hefty portion of the current drain. And heat.
I work in a data center, dude. Fairly large one. We heat the building in the winter.
Virtualization is also doing it's thing:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.unisys.com/products/enterprise__servers/high_d_end__servers/models/index.htm
Trust Hollerith: Punch cards will save us.
ReplyDeleteI work in a data center, dude. Fairly large one. We heat the building in the winter.
ReplyDeleteTouche'! I didn't think that the power requirements might change as well.