"There are countless horrible things happening all over the world and horrible people prospering, but we must never allow them to disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to sabotage and annoy them whenever possible." -Auberon Waugh
Tuesday, January 30, 2024
Elsewhere in the Antipodes...
A newly-minted member of Parliament, of Maori descent, gives her maiden speech.
I enjoy watching clips of hakas on the soccer field. In that chamber with all the echos, it was unnecessarily loud and annoying. Is this particular MP signaling she prioritizes Maori concerns over those of the general run of New Zealanders?
Young women acting out, drawing attention to themselves. Competing with each other to be village queen. That's all I see. Like animal mating displays in a way. Except in humans it's the females.
From their social network they adopt whatever language gets the most attention, and now they have tik tok or whatever.
My dad never took what females say seriously, and I guess I learned that from him. Yet he loved women, and they loved him.
Culturally, Maoris have serious social problems but are also in some ways better than other marginal groups. They have an articulate conservative side going back generations, who accept European predominance. based on a formal treaty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi
Their Maori Governor General representing the monarch was on good terms with the late Queen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Kiro
So this young lady is as much challenging her own Maori as anything, and it won't go well for her among the elders.
Democracy, theoretically, is supposed to bring people of different backgrounds together in a search for common ground. It's difficult enough to accomplish this goal without the sort of raw tribalism manifested by this young woman. I suppose, had I been one of the non-Maoris present, I would have been thankful that this member and her colleagues didn't break out their war clubs and smite the rest of us on the spot.
I'm glad Australian aborigines don't have anything like the Maori Hakka.
Aust ab ceremonies are kind of childish in comparison - unsympathetic people laugh and roll their eyes.
In the Waitangi Treaty the Maori had already figured out they'd have to deal with either the French or British and chose the latter on condition they got full equal rights, from the start. Pretty smart. Aust abs haven't figured that out even now!
Now our Aust abs whine like big babies 'We want a treaty toooo...'. (Too late!) Also they saw American indigenous on TV and now decided 'We're First Nations toooo...'
That's another reason I would have slipped out of that room during the speech; wouldn't want to have been conked on the head with a club and then taken home and tossed in the kettle.
In about 2017 there was a Rugby League Indigenous World Cup 7 a side (usually 13 a side) in Brisbane. Teams from Aust NZ,Tonga, Samoa,Fiji and New Guinea. What could go wrong? So when Australian Aboriginal played Maori, both sides had elders performing in traditional dress, the aboriginals had spears, shields and nulla nullas (fighting clubs) as part of their display. The aboriginals did their dance and then the Maori did the haka, which is at times very intimidating as they get right in the opposition faces. Well the local aboriginals were having none of this Maori shit on their patch and started to brandish their weapons. I really thought it was going to turn bloody until the actual football players dragged the older gents apart. It was the best part of the tournament and was strangely ignored by the media that night.
My wife and daughter toured NZ in the late 90's. They were told that culturally only the performed the haka. The haka was originally a challenge by the men of the tribe meant to scare their enemies before they went to war. Is this a case of cultural appropriation by women?
I read that different groups across NZ have different versions of haka. They're the same Polynesian people as Hawaiians, who even call themselves 'maoli' I read. So it would be interesting to compare similarities and differences between the 2 island cultures. I think Hawaiians have a version of haka. The difference is probably caused by different histories of warring vs peace, if there were.
I have had it to here (he said, indicating a point at neck level) with this one way racist bullshit.
ReplyDeleteFine, proud of your freaking heritage. Blah blah blah. Now shut the eff up about how much you hate white people, asshole. Pay your own reparations.
Seriously screw this racialist tribal crap.
I enjoy watching clips of hakas on the soccer field. In that chamber with all the echos, it was unnecessarily loud and annoying. Is this particular MP signaling she prioritizes Maori concerns over those of the general run of New Zealanders?
ReplyDeleteYoung women acting out, drawing attention to themselves. Competing with each other to be village queen. That's all I see. Like animal mating displays in a way. Except in humans it's the females.
ReplyDeleteFrom their social network they adopt whatever language gets the most attention, and now they have tik tok or whatever.
My dad never took what females say seriously, and I guess I learned that from him. Yet he loved women, and they loved him.
Bruce, your dear old dad only said he didn't take seriously what females said, yet his actions and their reciprocation speak otherwise.
DeleteCulturally, Maoris have serious social problems but are also in some ways better than other marginal groups. They have an articulate conservative side going back generations, who accept European predominance. based on a formal treaty:
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi
Their Maori Governor General representing the monarch was on good terms with the late Queen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Kiro
So this young lady is as much challenging her own Maori as anything, and it won't go well for her among the elders.
She wasn't challenging anyone. She did the Hakan to honor her people. Notice the Maoris in the gallery who joined in.
DeleteDemocracy, theoretically, is supposed to bring people of different backgrounds together in a search for common ground. It's difficult enough to accomplish this goal without the sort of raw tribalism manifested by this young woman. I suppose, had I been one of the non-Maoris present, I would have been thankful that this member and her colleagues didn't break out their war clubs and smite the rest of us on the spot.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad Australian aborigines don't have anything like the Maori Hakka.
ReplyDeleteAust ab ceremonies are kind of childish in comparison - unsympathetic people laugh and roll their eyes.
In the Waitangi Treaty the Maori had already figured out they'd have to deal with either the French or British and chose the latter on condition they got full equal rights, from the start. Pretty smart. Aust abs haven't figured that out even now!
Now our Aust abs whine like big babies 'We want a treaty toooo...'. (Too late!) Also they saw American indigenous on TV and now decided 'We're First Nations toooo...'
It's like having spoiled bratty kids.
They are First Nations. They were in Australia before anyone else.
DeleteThanks for the inside info, Bruce.
ReplyDeleteThat's a speech?
ReplyDeleteWell, I guess it is somewhat more comprehensible than a Joe Biden speech.
ReplyDeleteSo... have they stopped eating people?
That's another reason I would have slipped out of that room during the speech; wouldn't want to have been conked on the head with a club and then taken home and tossed in the kettle.
ReplyDeleteIn about 2017 there was a Rugby League Indigenous World Cup 7 a side (usually 13 a side) in Brisbane. Teams from Aust NZ,Tonga, Samoa,Fiji and New Guinea. What could go wrong?
ReplyDeleteSo when Australian Aboriginal played Maori, both sides had elders performing in traditional dress, the aboriginals had spears, shields and nulla nullas (fighting clubs) as part of their display.
The aboriginals did their dance and then the Maori did the haka, which is at times very intimidating as they get right in the opposition faces.
Well the local aboriginals were having none of this Maori shit on their patch and started to brandish their weapons. I really thought it was going to turn bloody until the actual football players dragged the older gents apart. It was the best part of the tournament and was strangely ignored by the media that night.
That rant was from me.
DeleteThat would definitely have been something to see!
ReplyDeleteMy wife and daughter toured NZ in the late 90's. They were told that culturally only the performed the haka. The haka was originally a challenge by the men of the tribe meant to scare their enemies before they went to war. Is this a case of cultural appropriation by women?
ReplyDeleteI read that different groups across NZ have different versions of haka. They're the same Polynesian people as Hawaiians, who even call themselves 'maoli' I read. So it would be interesting to compare similarities and differences between the 2 island cultures. I think Hawaiians have a version of haka. The difference is probably caused by different histories of warring vs peace, if there were.
ReplyDelete