"Hardboiled and Noir Are Not the Same".
I agree. The noir protagonist is always a tragic figure, doomed by, not just manifesting, one or more character flaws.
"Yep. Definitely doomed."
"There are countless horrible things happening all over the world and horrible people prospering, but we must never allow them to disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to sabotage and annoy them whenever possible." -Auberon Waugh
"Hardboiled and Noir Are Not the Same".
I agree. The noir protagonist is always a tragic figure, doomed by, not just manifesting, one or more character flaws.
I always thought of his as mostly hard-boiled.
ReplyDeleteHis Kind of Woman has been on a bunch lately.
I'd say Mitchum was hardboiled in that.
Vincent Price was great in that as well.
He was a sub-hero/comic relief.
Out of the Past was indisputably noir, but many of Mitchum's other movies were of the hardboiled variety. <>His Kind of Woman is a fun picture, precisely because of Vincent Price's screwball character, as you mention.
DeleteI am confused. I watched The Long Goodbye 1971 film with Elliott Gould. I couldn't work out which one it was so I looked it up and it was described as a "satirical neo-noir hardboiled" film. Nonethe wiser.
ReplyDeleteThe article mentions Carroll John Daly. I looked further - okay, just Wikipedia - and Daly is recognised as one of the very early hard boiled writers. He created the theme and its essential elements.
ReplyDeleteGiven that, and the fact that he was a fairly prolific writer, I was surprised that I'd never come across any of his work. The Wiki article includes a lot of links to a site where his stories can be read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_John_Daly
Thanks for that info, Gregory. I'll have to check that guy out.
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